What is the best way to grind glass?
GRIND TIME - ALL THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT ...
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In the midst of all thats going on in the world I think now would be perfect time to drive right into talking about things other than craziness of our current reality. Since we are all confined to our homes, now more than ever, its time to lean into the things we love to do and are grateful for. For me that is stained glass so I want to do what I can to share some positivity and guidance for those of you stuck at home who are also needing to use this time to create glasswork or are new to stained glass thanks to needing and new hobby haha. My last post I shared my go tos for cutting glass so naturally the next step in working on your stained glass project is: Grinding!
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FIRST TIME GLASS GRINDER?
Okay so youve cut out all your pieces, excellent! But like any human working with a material as fragile as glass your cuts arent flawless and your project doesnt fit together perfectly. This is where an amazing tool called a grinder comes in and saves your day and LOTS of time (the alternative is hand grinding with a stone like they did in medieval timesno thanks). A glass grinder is a kind of wet sander specifically made for sanding glass. It has a diamond drill bit that helps slowly sand off the unwanted excess glass on your pieces and turns them into perfect puzzle pieces that fit together. If a wet grinder is a new concept you arent alone. I was completely confused when I saw one for the first time - um mixing electricity with water - what? Anyways they are perfectly safe (the worst they can do is shave down your fingernail) and I promise not as dangerous as those wood shop sanders you vaguely remember being afraid of in middle school. Your grinder has a diamond bit that sits in the center and rapidly spins around once you flip the on switch. Usually you will have a sponge touching it as it spins. The sponge is there to prevent glass dust going into the air, by supplying water so it catches the glass particles. The sponge touching the bit is also in contact with the water reservoir below to consistently deliver water against your grinder and glass piece. Grinders arent horribly loud, are surprisingly small, and smooth the glass A LOT slower than you think they would. Some makers find this part of the process tedious but I dont think its all too bad if you have some loud music playing in the background.
GRINDER RECCOMENDATIONS
Owning a grinder is a necessity if youre going to make stained glass projects and unfortunately its one of the most expensive tools youll have to purchase. When it comes to buying grinders I dont have any big preferences as of now. Personally I own the cheaper Power Max II grinder (find on Amazon) . It was the grinder that I purchased at Hobby Lobby when I was first starting out making stained glass and has served me well over the past two + years. I know there are better grinders out there like Galstars grinder (find on Amazon) and Techniglass Corps The Grinder (find on Amazon) . Id love to invest in one of these but for now Im going to use the one I have until it goes kaput. Other tools I can recommend that are helpful to have while grinding but are not necessary are rubber finger protectors (find on Amazon) , a grinder mate (find on Amazon) , a grinder shield - if your grinder doesnt have one like mine (find on Amazon) , exta grinder bit sizes if needed (find on Amazon) , and some form of ear protection (find on Amazon) . If youd like more information on these extra items check out my blog post about The Tools You Need to Make Stained Glass . There I cover my thoughts on these optional items and go into more detail about why they are helpful to have!
SAFETYI KNOWBUT IT IS IMPORTANT (AGAIN)
Feel free to skip this if youve read it in my other posts - Ill be repeating myself because hey Im always going to be your crazy overbearing stained glass mom. First safety glasses are a MUST (find on Amazon) ! The amount of people I see not wearing eye protection during glass cutting and grinding is staggering. Please save yourself a trip to the ER and always wear eye protection when dealing with small shards of glass because you never know where they can fly. I can tell you from watching my dad go into the ER after getting a piece of metal removed from his eye it is INCREDIBLY painful and expensive. Also if you want to be extra safe like me wear a mask while cutting to protect from glass dust like I do (find on Amazon) . Over exposure to glass dust can cause Silicosis which leads to future serious lung problems. So save yourself the monetary/physical punishment and just buy some safety glasses and a dust mask they cost less than future medical treatments!
TIME TO GET ORGANIZED
Now that tools and safety have been covered we can jump into grinding prep. What I mean by this is you need to organize your pieces to know where to start before you get grinding. To do this I try to fit all my pieces together using my original pattern guide, most of the time they are sloppy and overlap, thats okay for now. I do this because in order to accurately grind your pieces to fit together you will need a system to check as you go - youll be using your pattern guide as the reference. Not only do we need to get our glass organized but we also need a way to keep our pieces secured so as we grind so we know they fit together perfectly. I know many other people like to use tacks or nails to hold their pieces in place. As you go you will secure each cleanly grinded piece with a nail or tack into cork board to keep them organized and in place. Another way people secure their projects are by using a wooden frame and nailing a guide to the outside of their pattern to make sure everything fits inside, this works best for a rectangular or square shaped project. When I started doing stained glass I didnt have much money or any tools to do either so I dont use these methods. For me I instead use the outline of my pattern as my guide and make sure as I grind all pieces fit within the outside boundary lines (see the below picture that better explain what I am trying to say). With this method you will need to have a lot of patience and a careful eye because you will be doing lots of adjusting as you grind. So beginners I really recommend if you can to find some way to secure or nail your projects, and for more advanced artists or those of us working on a thin budget you can try my way and see what you think!
Another organizational skill that I recommend when grinding is working bottom to top. Looking at an entire project needing to be grinded can be very overwhelming. I find by breaking a project into layers this not only takes the scariness away but gives you a layer by layer set of pieces to grind. In a way you almost want to be building upon what you are grinding, if you use this organizational method over choosing arbitrary pieces to grind you will save time and a have a clearer idea of what pieces need adjustment. See what Im talking about in these pictures
FLIP THAT LITTLE SWITCH TO ON!
Youve been patient and organized all your pieces so its now almost time for them to hit that grinder before you do here are some of my grinding go to tips
Dont forget to be suited up with goggles and maybe a dust mask!
Make sure there is plenty of water in your grinder before you get started and your sponge is fully saturated with water. It is a must for your grinder to function perfectly, stay cooled down, and keep your lungs safe.
Hold your glass either flat resting on the bottom part of your grinder against your bit or secured in two hands against the middle of the bit.
Use two hands when holding your pieces to keep them secure with the movement of the bit they can easily slip from your hands - especially small pieces.
Slow movements as you want the edges to be smooth and uniform.
You want to grind down to your marker or tracing paper lines as close as possible, extra glass is bad in this case, you want to be as exact as can be. Think of your project like a puzzle if the piece isnt a perfect match it wont fit.
Do not press hard against the bit it will not make grinding go faster. Grinding takes time and patience, this will only hurt your grinder over time. Allow the bit to do the work not your wrists.
Sand every edge of your pieces of glass, we want them all to be rough so the copper tape sticks better.
When grinding remember its better to under-grind than over-grind because we can always take off more glass we cant put the glass back once it gets taken off. Over-grinding = recutting a new piece and starting over.
If you need to take off more glass but your pattern piece or pattern line has washed off, dry the surface of your glass and then use a sharpie/glass marker to mark what else you need to grind off. Continue to do this each time if you need to go back and grind more.
Grind in organized layers: start bottom to top.
After grinding the front side of your glass piece flip it over and make sure the back side looks even and smooth as well!
Dont leave your grinder on when youre not using it.
Keep a rag near by to wipe off the excess residue and water from your pieces so you can accurately check often what more needs to be grinded if necessary.
Dont stress if you have some gaps, you arent going to be perfect at grinding hell Im still not and I grind weekly. It takes some time to get the hang of it, I will explain a bit later about what to do about gaps between your pieces and when it becomes an issue. Most the time you can compensate the extra spacing when you go to solder your project.
Make sure your project fits as perfectly together as possible before moving on to foiling (the step that comes after grinding).
If youve never grinded before take a piece of scrap glass to test and get the hang of it before you start with your actual project. Unfortunately this is an experience that is hard for me to explain without me being able to show you myself. But you will understand when you do it yourself and play around a bit :).
THE SECRET TO GRINDING THE RIGHT WAY
Okay trick statement, the secret is being an amazing grinder is just doing it over and over like many technical skills require to become a master. The closest thing I can offer as the golden ticket to success is when you grind is to be sure your pieces fit perfectly into your pattern. Let me repeat myself because this is really the game changer if you want a nice final product: MAKE SURE YOUR PIECES FIT ALMOST PERFECTLY INTO YOUR PATTERN LINES. If you dont make sure your pieces fit perfectly you are going to have a bummer of a project that will look misshapen or wont fit in a frame once youre done soldering it together. Youve come so far and worked so hard on your project to this point by being sloppy and not grinding correctly your end product will surely suffer. Grinding can take up to a few hours depending on the amount of pieces you have and how precise you are at cutting glass. So please BE PATIENT and take your time, it will be worth it I promise.
WHEN THAT GAP GOES FROM BEING FASHIONABLE TO UN-WORKABLE
You grinded your little heart out and you have a huge-ass gapwell its happened to all of us glass artists. Here is the good news, gaps arent the end of the world and most of the time they can be covered in solder*. See that asterisk? Not all the time. You arent to the step of soldering yet but at this stage you have to think of all of your gaps as holes when you go to melt your lead, the liquid lead needs to fill out that hole. Its hard to describe the nature of lead if you havent played with it but its very quick to melt and then harden. With a bigger gap the lead will melt quickly and will not build easily because once it gets hit with heat it wants to melt again. Also keep in mind the larger the gap the wider your lead line will be, so if you have mostly normal leadlines and this mega chunky leadline its just going to look off and your eye is going to go to that large leadline next to all the normal ones. So if your gap is too big its better to cut a new piece of glass and regrind it to fit nicely. Again much more worth it to do that than have a sloppy looking project. Check out the below example of a few acceptable gaps and a gap whose size isnt acceptable. Again we want to aim not to have these gaps but they do happen and certainly arent a project ruiner if we make them few and far between.
MAKING THE FINAL FIT
Youve grinded all your pieces and they fit perfectly together - excellent work on your part! Most likely they are covered in goop either glass dust residue, sharpie, and or tracing paper remnants. Once youve given that final glance at your project and it looks perfectly fit its time to give your pieces a good wash. This step is important because we want to be sure our pieces are squeaky clean and ready to be covered in copper tape. Copper tape is finicky and wont stick if there is any residual glass dust. My trick to giving my pieces a good bath: a warm tub of water and dawn dish soap. Once your pieces have soaked for a bit all that gunk should come off easily. We then want to give each piece a little scrub with the rough side of a sponge. After Ive done this with all my pieces I will leave them to dry for a bit then pat off the excess water on them. Boom youve got some clean beautiful perfectly grinded pieces of glass ready for some taping.
GRIND TIME BABY!
As the french say: Et Volia! You are ready to put your glass to the metal and get to sanding those pieces down. Think of this part of the process as an interactive puzzle or whatever you have to frame it as to make it more fun and less of a chore! So much of learning to work with a grinder is doing, I really cannot recommend enough to sit at your bench and just play and discover the limits of the grinder. For the all painful dull moments youll have sitting at it wishing you were finished with grinding it really does take your sloppy project and turn it into a true masterpiece. So without further ado GET GRINDIN!
P.S. Take care of yourselves friends and stay healthy and positive we are gunna get though though this crazy time <3!
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Tips For Grinding Small Stained Glass Pieces Accurately
Grinding small pieces of art glass accurately without losing your fingers!
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Stained Glass Grinder Cookie
Grinders Mate and Other Grinding Tools
Make A Grinder Jig For Bevelled Edges
Additional Grinding Tips
Cheap & Cheerful Finger Protection
Sometimes you have to be able to accurately grind small pieces of stained glass to get a good fit or for detailed designs. The small pieces put your fingers in the way of the grinder bit and can be difficult to manage, especially if your fingers are less than nimble.
I asked how others manage the tricky problem of grinding stained glass by hand and had some interesting ideas shared. Let me know if any of these are helpful or if you have a different trick up your sleeve that you would like to add in Comments below.
1. Stained Glass Grinder Cookie
Millys recommendation:
This is the tool I use for grinding small pieces of stained glass painlessly and accurately. It looks a bit like an unsuccessful flying saucer but is actually does a fine job holding small bits of glass in place when grinding.
I was a bit sceptical first, thinking that my fingers do the job fine, thanks. But Ive been trying them out for a few years and now think theyre great.
Because you have more control over the grinding process theres less breakage. For the same reason they seem to help preserve the grinder bit.
The Grinder Cookie is comfortable to hold, you dont need to grip anything tightly so its good if you struggle with dexterity.
It is also good for grinding shapes that taper off into thin tips. I bought a few for my classes and tried using two together, which meant I didnt have to hold the glass at all. The glass grinder cookie also stops you wiping the pen lines off with your fingers, which is a big plus.
Best of all, it saves your nails and fingertips and lessens the cramp you sometimes get when grinding tiny pieces of glass.
All in all, I stand corrected. This is a very useful addition to a stained glass kit and comes recommended.
Stained Glass Cookie Grinder (*paid link)
The following suggestions have been kindly shared by members of my Stained Glass Hub community and readers a big thanks to all!
Tips on art glass cookie grinder alternatives from readers:
This is a great idea for a cheap, effective DIY version:
- I use the Stained Glass Grinder Cookie you show but found for even smaller glass pieces I made a pusher from a paint stirrer. I put a nickel sized U in it and it works well.
2. Grinders Mate & Other Stained Glass Grinding Tools
You might find the following tips and discussions about different stained glass grinding tongs useful:
- I was recently loaned a Nicks Grinders Mate to test out. I have to say that I LOVE it. If you havent tried one yet, I highly recommend it. The jaws grip exceptionally well and hold even the tiniest piece quite securely. I have read that others dont like that the piece is elevated off the grinding surface and that this comes into contact with the bit at a raised point. This isnt a drawback for me.
- I have the Grinders Mate and it works fine but teensy tiny pieces get lost in it.
- I have Grinders Mate, but I found that the soft rubber doesnt wear well really tiny pieces get lost.
Grinders mate (*paid link)
Comment from Milly: You can get replacement heads for these glass grinder tongs so the wear and tear described above isnt the end of the tongs, just a bit annoying!
Grinders Mate Replacement Heads (*paid link)
- My art glass grinding tongs are the yellow Morton ones(*paid link), you have to clamp the glass piece down with your hand the whole time. I would recommend the Grinders Mate though because it stays locked no hand grip required.
- While I was working on a fanlight, I stumbled across Griffin Glass Gripper (German made) grinding tongs that are marketed by Glastar. Like the Morton, you do have to hold them together to grip the glass, but so far, Ive found them superior for holding super small pieces well. They seem to be a heavier plastic, and there is no soft rubber to wear and compromise the grip. The downside is price theyre a significantly more expensive than Grinders Mate or Morton.
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3. How To Make A Grinder Jig For Bevelled Edges
This jig will enable you to angle the edges of your glass and create a mitred joint. These bevelled mitred joints can be used in a variety of 3-D projects, for example lamps and boxes.
These mitred joints reduce the amount of solder used as there is no gap to fill.
- Use oak for the jig as it withstands getting wet from the grinder.
- Cut an angle on one side of the oak. The angle will depend on your project. 45 degrees is perfect for a right angled box. You will need a lesser angle for a multi-sided lampshade. The photo shows 2 different angles.
- Insert 2 pins in the bottom of the oak. These slot into the grinder grid and keep the jig in place. The placing of these pins is important as the jig has to be held close to the grinder bit. Use heavy gauge copper wire. You can see the distance needed in the photos.
- Lastly, stick a strip of Slick Strips tape along the top of the bevelled side to help the glass slide freely. You can purchase this from a woodworking supply store.
Thanks SO much to George Hight for sharing this gem with us. It is a great help for all the lamp and box makers out there
If you dont want to have so much control over the size of your angles you can get a ready-made lamp grinder bit like this one from Amazon (paid link).
4. Additional Grinding Tips
Here are some clever ideas from Stained Glass Hub member Denise Whittle, with a nifty storyboard to help you understand:
- I use a +/- 1 or 2 inch strip scrap piece so I have something to hold on to. Grind that scrap for safety.
- Grind around 3 sides, then score and break the 4th side and grind It. That way you only have to hold on to a tiny piece for one side.
- I also have a Cookie Grinder that keeps it up against the bit but still if it is too tiny, it will disappear into the bottom of the grinder.
- Another thing I do is to hold it up against the 1/4 or 1/8 bit directly either with my fingers or use the grinder tongs. You have to hold yourself steady because you dont have a work surface to support your little piece.
Image Denise Whittle
Heres an ingenious cork idea, although Im wondering how safe it is to insert a small piece of glass in a cork so be careful if you try this.
- I make a slit in a wine cork slot the tiny piece of glass into it and hold cork while grinding :-). I will have to have people save for me as I also use them for burnishing foil on heavily textured glass too.
5. Cheap & Cheerful Finger Protection
- I got fed up with ground fingertips the solution? Rubber thimbles! Easily found in stationery stores. For your thumb, get larger ones suitable for quilting, made from plastic. Heres some on Amazon (*paid link)
- Alternatively, use adhesive tape tape it over and back over the top of your fingers, then around the circumference of your finger/thumb to hold it on.
- I have been doing stained glass since . I buy the rubber finger protectors that you would use for flicking through papers etc. for grinding. I buy them in different sizes. I always have them on each thumb and either my index or middle finger (this way it allows either index or middle finger, depending on which you have the finger protection on, to be clear to pick up the pieces. This works better than tape as they are very easy to take on and off.
- Idea from Ron I avoid grinding fingers (as much as I can) by using 2 erasers per attached pics. They grip the glass nicely
So there you have some suggestions to help you grind small pieces of stained glass more easily and accurately, without putting your precious fingers at risk! Let me know below how you get on if you try any of these suggestions or if you have any others. Thanks in advance.
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